Post by Durf on Jul 12, 2016 7:39:38 GMT -5
Tired of seeing some videos where they talk and make mistakes.
This video is an example where Cenk is reporting on someone's words he doesn't understand.
He talks about her not having any idea what she's talking about (5:24), when it's Cenk that doesn't understand what she's talking about.
To everyone reading this that recognizes the politically correct cultural movement of "black lives matter", you need an explanation in order to understand a perspective you cannot see (one who doesn't recognize the same).
For the sake of example, imagine a United States without any problems (maybe like back in the 1950s without the racism; no major problems), a social utopia (which should be noted does not mean everyone is perfect or smart, just society is doing well).
If, in such a society, the media up and decided to start reporting on the status of racism in the country, and INTRODUCE an IDEA such a "black lives matter" (note: not the movement, just the idea), there will INEVITABLY be people that interpret this with feeling, and FEEL the idea "black lives matter".
Now analyzing the words chosen is very important. Quite LITERALLY the ONLY WAY someone would come up with those words themselves is if someone FELT as if black lives do not matter in the current society.
That might have seemed very obvious on why "black lives matter" is a thing, but consider the scenario. If the media introduced the idea when there wasn't really a need to, all the media did was instill the feeling of need into the people exposed to this media.
Every white person that is terrified of being labelled a racist will immediately identify the "cry out" for help by an oppressed group, in order to attempt to redeem their white sins (which in itself is another problem and another form of the oppression from racism).
Even worse, when people decide that such an issue is important enough to create a movement for it; this is when the most racism occurs, all due to the introduction of a racially based idea.
When people have the feeling that drives them to say "black lives matter", it is literally because they feel as if society itself is being racist towards them. (sound obvious ik)
But! When people can't stop spouting shit about race, guess what? Racism happens! Racial wars happen. I've always said, the racists are the people who consider race to be an issue.
Now, I haven't discredited the movement, or said anything bad about it in itself, other than one thing: such a movement in the hands of stupid people will only cause more problems.
So before you decide to get #triggered, keep reading because you'll probably get more triggered.
After having gone through that hypothetical society (one in which there was no apparent problem, as in a need for a movement, then the media introduces one simply to increase the disparity between races).
Here is the issue that Sarah Palin was referring to:
She recognizes the "Black lives matter" movement as a very racist thing. Black people go up to white people and harass and oppress them simply for being white and not agreeing with the idea of THE MOVEMENT of "black lives matter".
That type of action is literally the racism they are allegedly fighting against (but only if the victim is black).
Just because a person (any racetoes not agree with a idiotic movement encouraging retards to target a race of people (for support or oppression), doesn't automatically mean they are against your race! FFS FML THIS RAGE!
This is why Cenk is talking out of his ass in this video.
He says that she doesn't know what she's talking about...but it's him that cannot conceive of a perspective too far from his own.
He is being a political correctness watchdog in this video.
So, more detail, what did Sarah mean?
Well Sarah does recognize that people are pissed off (lots of people, not just black people, and they are pissed about everything). The reasons why Bernie and Trump have gotten so much support is because they preach answers to the things that piss people off.
Besides voting for the right person, there are other methods, which Cenk himself takes a part of, in order to create change in the country (such as civil disobedience and rioting / protesting).
Sarah recognizes that there are RIOTERS and might have the perspective that all of the media exposure of these incidents are specifically designed to reduce the notion that there are rioters and protesters.
Sarah seems to be suggesting that there are indeed more incidents of rioting that lead to violent interactions due to this movement (such as a white SJW attempting to kill an "offender" they identified).
Sarah seems to be suggesting that the media is deliberately trying to instill more fear and racism, which further causes these incidents.
This post is not about Black lives matter, nor is it about Sarah Palin or her perspective (because I can't be certain of that).
(My personal opinions were not really explained in this post - so don't worry if what I said sounds outrageous, it's playing with the idea of what Sarah Palin might think in order to bring herself to say what she said)
I don't even know who Sarah Palin is (though I recognize the name).
This is about Cenk making a mistake:
Without being sure of the reality the other person sees, he went on reporting as if there was a problem.
He himself has caused another problem of misunderstanding.
He hasn't bothered trying to understand how someone could see the words said as right (in their own eyes), and simply dismissed it as "shes talking out of her ass" (doesn't know what she's saying...but of course she does).
So...MY OPINION:
The movement "black lives matter" is stupid and racist - I have never cared for being politically correct. I've cared more about simply being correct.
I have enough experience with different types of discrimination and racism to realize that racism only occurs when people live in a reality where race is an issue (yes races are different, no being politically correct won't change that, yes it's NOT racist to be correct).
Consider this: women (feminazis) are complaining that part of the patriarchy oppression is the treatment of women as if they are fragile and need to be protected (a clear social advantage, they attempt to refuse it). Then when a man treats them equally and clocks them across the face for being a faggot (not used in a derogatory way towards gays, or to signify sexual preference at all, they're just a fag), they get all surprised! "Where did my social advantage go! Halp I'm being raped!".
I'm not an idiot. I recognize what the movement is ALLEGEDLY attempting to do (reduce racism in the country). But has ANYONE in the movement itself ACTUALLY considered what is needed in order to accomplish that?
Or will standing in some street corner collecting people that can verify your opinion accomplish that? This movement is literally to collect retards.
So as I've said, the racists are the ones that consider race to be an issue.
I will assume for a moment, that there is a prevalent epidemic of racism against blacks in the US (what did you expect me to assume the media was just right, and not call this an assumption?)
Out of all the solutions I can think of, a political movement that focuses on supporting a particular oppressed group, will only form oppressors within that group (similar to feminism as a movement).
Over time, you will see black people oppress white people simply for being the race they are, because "black lives matter". This is what feminism has already achieved; males are misogynists by default in the US (unless you're gay).
The solution isn't to have a movement, it's to increase education and morals. If you enabled society to the point where, even if the media tried to lie to someone, they'd have the capability to not simply react emotionally to what is fed to them, and be able to deal with the situation appropriately. Such as addressing the state of mental health of police, or the policies they follow.
So listen again to 0:25, the words she is using...
She is talking about how, if PEOPLE want to solve an issue, this isn't the way to go about doing that. She didn't say that about BLACK people, or call THEM thugs. She just talks about the result of the movement (which includes white people in support of it too). She didn't call any particular race "thugs". In fact, I'd even go as far as saying that this is a type of frustrated wisdom - she recognizes that the media is only making a bad situation (stupid people) worse.
So when the media tries to treat these violent actions, where people are rallied together to hate on white oppression...that's not a valid protest, that's legitimately what gangs do...thugs.
So yea, if I saw the media perpetuating a problem instead of working to solve it, I too would say "stop treating this as if they are people, they are not"...because any self-respecting person would not add to the problem if they truly wanted a solution.
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If you ever, at all think, "all lives matter" is a racist thing to say....first of all...fucking too retarded to be reading this.
Second, this video:
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Edit:
Thought of better wording:
Black lives matter is stupid because it's trying to fight racism from a racial point of view.
You don't "fight racism", or even "systemic racism"...you fight the opportunity for systemic racism to exist.
The problem isn't being solved by addressing the apparent problem; the cause of the problem needs to be addressed, not the problem itself.
This video is an example where Cenk is reporting on someone's words he doesn't understand.
He talks about her not having any idea what she's talking about (5:24), when it's Cenk that doesn't understand what she's talking about.
To everyone reading this that recognizes the politically correct cultural movement of "black lives matter", you need an explanation in order to understand a perspective you cannot see (one who doesn't recognize the same).
For the sake of example, imagine a United States without any problems (maybe like back in the 1950s without the racism; no major problems), a social utopia (which should be noted does not mean everyone is perfect or smart, just society is doing well).
If, in such a society, the media up and decided to start reporting on the status of racism in the country, and INTRODUCE an IDEA such a "black lives matter" (note: not the movement, just the idea), there will INEVITABLY be people that interpret this with feeling, and FEEL the idea "black lives matter".
Now analyzing the words chosen is very important. Quite LITERALLY the ONLY WAY someone would come up with those words themselves is if someone FELT as if black lives do not matter in the current society.
That might have seemed very obvious on why "black lives matter" is a thing, but consider the scenario. If the media introduced the idea when there wasn't really a need to, all the media did was instill the feeling of need into the people exposed to this media.
Every white person that is terrified of being labelled a racist will immediately identify the "cry out" for help by an oppressed group, in order to attempt to redeem their white sins (which in itself is another problem and another form of the oppression from racism).
Even worse, when people decide that such an issue is important enough to create a movement for it; this is when the most racism occurs, all due to the introduction of a racially based idea.
When people have the feeling that drives them to say "black lives matter", it is literally because they feel as if society itself is being racist towards them. (sound obvious ik)
But! When people can't stop spouting shit about race, guess what? Racism happens! Racial wars happen. I've always said, the racists are the people who consider race to be an issue.
Now, I haven't discredited the movement, or said anything bad about it in itself, other than one thing: such a movement in the hands of stupid people will only cause more problems.
So before you decide to get #triggered, keep reading because you'll probably get more triggered.
After having gone through that hypothetical society (one in which there was no apparent problem, as in a need for a movement, then the media introduces one simply to increase the disparity between races).
Here is the issue that Sarah Palin was referring to:
She recognizes the "Black lives matter" movement as a very racist thing. Black people go up to white people and harass and oppress them simply for being white and not agreeing with the idea of THE MOVEMENT of "black lives matter".
That type of action is literally the racism they are allegedly fighting against (but only if the victim is black).
Just because a person (any racetoes not agree with a idiotic movement encouraging retards to target a race of people (for support or oppression), doesn't automatically mean they are against your race! FFS FML THIS RAGE!
This is why Cenk is talking out of his ass in this video.
He says that she doesn't know what she's talking about...but it's him that cannot conceive of a perspective too far from his own.
He is being a political correctness watchdog in this video.
So, more detail, what did Sarah mean?
Well Sarah does recognize that people are pissed off (lots of people, not just black people, and they are pissed about everything). The reasons why Bernie and Trump have gotten so much support is because they preach answers to the things that piss people off.
Besides voting for the right person, there are other methods, which Cenk himself takes a part of, in order to create change in the country (such as civil disobedience and rioting / protesting).
Sarah recognizes that there are RIOTERS and might have the perspective that all of the media exposure of these incidents are specifically designed to reduce the notion that there are rioters and protesters.
Sarah seems to be suggesting that there are indeed more incidents of rioting that lead to violent interactions due to this movement (such as a white SJW attempting to kill an "offender" they identified).
Sarah seems to be suggesting that the media is deliberately trying to instill more fear and racism, which further causes these incidents.
This post is not about Black lives matter, nor is it about Sarah Palin or her perspective (because I can't be certain of that).
(My personal opinions were not really explained in this post - so don't worry if what I said sounds outrageous, it's playing with the idea of what Sarah Palin might think in order to bring herself to say what she said)
I don't even know who Sarah Palin is (though I recognize the name).
This is about Cenk making a mistake:
Without being sure of the reality the other person sees, he went on reporting as if there was a problem.
He himself has caused another problem of misunderstanding.
He hasn't bothered trying to understand how someone could see the words said as right (in their own eyes), and simply dismissed it as "shes talking out of her ass" (doesn't know what she's saying...but of course she does).
So...MY OPINION:
The movement "black lives matter" is stupid and racist - I have never cared for being politically correct. I've cared more about simply being correct.
I have enough experience with different types of discrimination and racism to realize that racism only occurs when people live in a reality where race is an issue (yes races are different, no being politically correct won't change that, yes it's NOT racist to be correct).
Consider this: women (feminazis) are complaining that part of the patriarchy oppression is the treatment of women as if they are fragile and need to be protected (a clear social advantage, they attempt to refuse it). Then when a man treats them equally and clocks them across the face for being a faggot (not used in a derogatory way towards gays, or to signify sexual preference at all, they're just a fag), they get all surprised! "Where did my social advantage go! Halp I'm being raped!".
I'm not an idiot. I recognize what the movement is ALLEGEDLY attempting to do (reduce racism in the country). But has ANYONE in the movement itself ACTUALLY considered what is needed in order to accomplish that?
Or will standing in some street corner collecting people that can verify your opinion accomplish that? This movement is literally to collect retards.
So as I've said, the racists are the ones that consider race to be an issue.
I will assume for a moment, that there is a prevalent epidemic of racism against blacks in the US (what did you expect me to assume the media was just right, and not call this an assumption?)
Out of all the solutions I can think of, a political movement that focuses on supporting a particular oppressed group, will only form oppressors within that group (similar to feminism as a movement).
Over time, you will see black people oppress white people simply for being the race they are, because "black lives matter". This is what feminism has already achieved; males are misogynists by default in the US (unless you're gay).
The solution isn't to have a movement, it's to increase education and morals. If you enabled society to the point where, even if the media tried to lie to someone, they'd have the capability to not simply react emotionally to what is fed to them, and be able to deal with the situation appropriately. Such as addressing the state of mental health of police, or the policies they follow.
So listen again to 0:25, the words she is using...
She is talking about how, if PEOPLE want to solve an issue, this isn't the way to go about doing that. She didn't say that about BLACK people, or call THEM thugs. She just talks about the result of the movement (which includes white people in support of it too). She didn't call any particular race "thugs". In fact, I'd even go as far as saying that this is a type of frustrated wisdom - she recognizes that the media is only making a bad situation (stupid people) worse.
So when the media tries to treat these violent actions, where people are rallied together to hate on white oppression...that's not a valid protest, that's legitimately what gangs do...thugs.
So yea, if I saw the media perpetuating a problem instead of working to solve it, I too would say "stop treating this as if they are people, they are not"...because any self-respecting person would not add to the problem if they truly wanted a solution.
</rant>
If you ever, at all think, "all lives matter" is a racist thing to say....first of all...fucking too retarded to be reading this.
Second, this video:
...........................................
Edit:
Thought of better wording:
Black lives matter is stupid because it's trying to fight racism from a racial point of view.
You don't "fight racism", or even "systemic racism"...you fight the opportunity for systemic racism to exist.
The problem isn't being solved by addressing the apparent problem; the cause of the problem needs to be addressed, not the problem itself.
